The following is a listing of the different holsters
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|   | Figure G1: 1900 or 1906 AKAH German commercial holster for 4-¾" barrel 30 cal Luger. | |
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|   | Figure G2: 1906 style German commercial holster for 4-¾" barrel 30 cal Luger. (The holster shown on the left is featured in LUGER HOLSTERS AND THEIR ACCESSORIES by EU Bender, Copyright © 1992, p 263. Formally of the John Pearson Collection) Scan the mouse over the picture to view back side of holsters. | |
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The following is a description of two very interesting P.08 style German
manufacture commercial holsters. The first example could be considered the
more standard. The leather color is dark brown. The holster body is rigid
with a magazine and cleaning rod pouch stitched to the spine and the body
has a leather "Pull up" strap for removing the pistol. The bucket flap is
secured to the holster body with a leather strap, belt buckle and belt loop.
Under the flap is a pouch for a tool and pin punch. The flap is secured by a
brass stud and slit. Two angled belt loops are stitched the rear holster
body. The holster body top edge and the holster flap edge have a piping
border. The stitching is excellent and is a red/brown color. On the inside
cover flap are two identical 3-line ink stampings and a hand written name in ink. The second holster is also dark brown and is mostly the same as the above holster with the following significant exceptions. There is no tool and pin punch pouch under the holster flap and there is no cleaning rod pouch stitched to the holster body spine, only a spare magazine pouch and the body lacks a leather strap for removing the pistol. The stitching is a bit coarser and a single stitching line is used on the top of the holster flap where a double stitch line is used in the first example. There are no piping borders or any stampings or marks whatsoever. The bucket style holster flap of the second example is stitched at the upper forward spine edge whereas the first example holster flap is a formed piece or leather at both corners. The back of the P.08 commercial holster is a single piece of leather being part of the magazine pouch back as well. The P.08 Commercial-Military holster back is separate from the magazine pouch. The magazine pouch and cleaning rod pouch are sewn onto the leading edge of the holster. Regarding the first example holster cited, some Imperial German officers were required to purchase their P.08 Luger pistols and holsters. The holsters were probably purchased privately which may explain the lack of a maker and date stamp. The 1st example holster generally does not have any military proofs or stamps yet are military issue and shouldn't be considered commercial, however a commercial, no date stamped P.08 Luger without the hold open device would be proper for this holster. The second example holster is clearly a P.08 style commercial holster of German manufacture of unidentified origins. It deviates from the military issue, as it doesn't comply with the accepted P.08 holster military pattern, lacking the loading tool/pin pouch and cleaning rod pouch. The holster more than likely is pre WWI and would be appropriate for a P.08 commercial or possibly a 1906 new model grip safety 4" 9mm Luger, which were manufactured up to 1914. |   |
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|   | Figure G3: 2 P.08 commercial holsters. | |
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D6 Daniel F.J.Daniel, Bühl in Baden. This leatherwear manufacturer marked PT.04 and PT.08 in c.1910-18, most of which also bear ‘LZA Strassburg’ (q.v.). Daniel was originally believed to have traded in Suhl, through Bühl lies some 30km east north-east of Strassburg. (from The Luger Book by John Walters © 1986, p. 91) L67 LZA, L.Z.A. Found on pre-1918 PT.08, above a distinctive three-quarter displayed eagle clasping a sheaf of thunderbolts; significance uncertain. Several explanations have been forwarded for this mark, which is accompanied by a variety of stampings such as J. ERFURT. Disallowing unjustifiable explanations such as ‘Landespolizei-Zollamt Customs’, two remain: Landeszeugämter (Provincial Armories) and Leder-Zuweisungs-Amt der Kriegsrohstoff-Abteilung. The latter which is preferable, represents the ‘leather supply office of the war raw materials department’; this, it is assumed, supplied leather for completion by minor saddlers. Whether the leather was finished and pre-cut is debatable, though some holsters have been found on which the parts have been partly covered by the holster closing-strap. Known ‘LZA’ marks include ‘J.Erfurt’, ‘J.Barmen’ and ‘J.Breslau’; ‘H.Hamburg’ and ‘H.Strassburg’; and ‘Berlin. C.’, ‘Hannover’ and ‘Karlsruhe’’ without prefixes. The prefix ‘J’ probably represents ‘in’ (‘J’ being a regular substitute for ‘I’). However, ‘H’ remains a mystery; ‘Hauptamt’ is a plausible suggestion, on the basis that both Hamburg and Strassbourg were large towns. (ibid, P. 157) Shown in Figure G1 and referred to in IMPERIAL LUGERS AND THEIR ACCESSORIES by J. Still © 1991, P. 189, as a second variation holster with buckle closure and belt loops. The author also stated that the second variation holster was worn by naval ground forces in fighting in Belgium. |   |
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|   | Figure G4: Second variation holster worn by German naval ground forces in fighting in Belgium. | |
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H33 HKO On pre-1918 PT-08 and magazine/ammunition pouches. HK O OVER MÜNCHEN has been reported on Bavarian holsters, in conjunction with a very distinctive crown above ‘I’, ‘II’, or ‘III’. The ‘H’ and ‘K’ are conjoined to form a semi-monogram, in which, perhaps surprisingly, the ‘O’ plays no part. At the time of writing no satisfactory explanation of these marks have been offered.
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H60 Huber (ii) Joh. Huber, München. Nothing has been discovered about this maker of Pistol 1904 and P.08 holsters (1915-18), saddlery and ammunition pouches. The business apparently failed during the first years of the Weimar Republic. ------ from The Luger Book by John Walters © 1986, p. 137 The featured twin belt loop holster and magazine pouch for the M1904 navy Luger seems to fit most of the above information and additionally seems to connect the two "manufactures", Huber and HKO by way of the commonality of the crown I stamps and the fact that the crown I stamps were on the leather stock before it was cut. The holster is for the M1904/08 or M1904/14 (1916-1917 dated) navy Lugers, is made of a rich dark brown leather and has a cleaning rod pouch sewn on the leading edge holster spine with a cover flap secured by a steel stud and slot with small circular leather end caps. On the holster body is a pull-up strap. Under the holster body flap is a tool pouch with a cover secured by the same slit and steel stud method. On the rear of the holster in an oval cartouche is the maker "JOH.HUBER - SATTLEREI - MÜNCHEN" and to the right, partially obscured by the top of the belt loop is a very stylized crown over the Roman numeral I. On the front of the holster body, centered at the top is the same stylized crown over I. There are no other marks on the holster. The twin magazine pouch is in excellent condition and is made of the same rich dark brown leather as the holster. The cover flap is secured by the slit and stud method with the same style but slightly larger steel stud as the holster cleaning rod and loading tool pouch. On the rear belt lop is a very crisp, stylized stamping in three lines "HK O - MÜNCHEN - 18" and to the immediate top right of the single, wide belt loop, on the magazine pouch body is stamped with the identical, very stylized crown over I and a second crown over I is located on the left top edge of the magazine pouch body. The left edge of the crown is partially obscured where the back of the pouch is sewn to the front section. Both the magazine pouch crown over I stamps are identical to the holster crown I stampings. |   |
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|   | Figure G5: M1904 navy Luger holster. | |
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Featured herein are two pre-1925 commercial Luger “down-strap/stud” style holster variants identified as holster variant number 1 and 2.
At first when holster variant number 1 was acquired it was thought to be a “one off” commercial holster, dismissed as non-German manufacture and of poor quality construction.
Since the above “critique” another similar holster, no doubt made by the same manufacturer, identified herein as holster variant number 2 has been discovered that requires a reevaluation of the above critique. For a more detailed discussion of these holsters, refer to the following article "Pre-1925 Commercial Luger “Down-Strap/Stud” Style Holsters."
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|   | Figure G6: Pre-1925 Commercial Luger “Down-Strap/Stud” Style Holsters. | |
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